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from chief white house correspondent ed henry. >> officials now say speaker john boehner's phone call to president obama was tense, hopes of a possible deal seem to be fading fast. >> i remain the most optimistic person in this town, but we've got some serious differences. >> the biggest difference is over taxes. republicans complain in an interview with abc news the president made it harder for boehner to sell compromise to republicans by saying the only way to go forward is for the speaker to cave. >> i'm confident republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect the tax cuts for high-income individuals. >> white house officials today incested the president was merely reiterating a long-held position and said the hold up is the republicans failing to get specific about taxes. >> closing loopholeles they will not name, capping deductions that they will not specify sometime in the future. those magic beans are just beans. that fairy dust is just dust. >> boehner fired back the real problem is the president's latest proposal offered in private on monday is light
the republican party. wait until you hear what jim demint told rush limbaugh today about speaker boehner. >>> plus, michigan police pepper spray protesters after governor schneider calls for a right to work bill that strips union power. president obama just responded to this. we're live in michigan tonight. >>> and it's a political battle for the ages. we'll tell you why first lady michelle obama and former president bill clinton are going head to head. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. >>> i just spotted mitt romney at costco again. go ahead and return that oval rug you ordered. [ male announcer ] now's the perfect time to buy an adjustable version of the most highly recommended bed in america. the tempur-pedic ergo system. treat yourself to the ultimate sleep experience and save up to $400 during the tempur ergo savings event. plus visit tempurpedic.com for full details on our 0% apr financing with up to five years to pay. don't wait. five-year special financing ends december 10th. visit tempurpedic.com now. tempur-pedic. the most highly recommended bed in america. >>> have yo
boehner met face to face at the white house today. no details on their conversations but refs for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the last time the president and the speaker met in person to talk about the fiscal cliff was more than three weeks ago. >>> just after midnight on sunday gay couples in washington state made history. the voter approved referendum was signed into law on wednesday. >>> venezuelan president yugo chavez is returning to cuba for more cancer surgery. this time he is making sure a new leader is in place in case he doesn't return. he named the vice president as his choice for his choice in case something happens to him. he's scheduled to be swarn in for a new six-year term on january 10th. >>> some very sad news for fans of music superstar jenny rivera. they have found the wreckage of the private jet believing to be carrying the popular mexican-american singer and six others. the plane lost contact early this morning. so far, no cause has been given for that crash. >>> the menorah has been illuminated tonight, marking the start of hanukkah. >>
that the boehner rule, i. efrmgts any extension of the debt limit must be matched by matching spending cuts the norm from now on. seems president obama does not want to play that game as he said. walking away from the press conference today withes the gop leadership on capitol hill, a x alex, they're still engaging in the trench warfare. i asked speaker boehner about the $250,000 bush tax cuts, all the polling shows the country will think republicans are to blame if we go over the fiscal cliff, six out of ten voters in november said the tax rates should go up, how much longer can he afford to politically keep this pledge and he said look, you heard it there, the rates when we close the revenues, loopholes will go up on the rich people. that still is the mindset. what's interesting, is talking to republicans leaving the house conference gop conference this morning, there is a lot of support for speaker boehner. there aren't cracks like there were during the debt limit where he had a faction that was lining up against him wholeheartedly. even after yesterday we heard all the stuff of fallout
" from new york. president obama has john boehner boxed in and is done playing games. now it's getting good. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%. that includes all of you. >> the president holds the line on taxes and draws the line on the debt ceiling. >> i will not play that game. >> tonight, democratic whip steny hoyer gives me the latest fiscal cliff developments and the democratic line on medicare. tomç perriello from the centerf american progress action fund on how democrats can deal with republicans who can't deal with reality. rubio and ryan reload with a new message for the middle class. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. >> but there is no escaping their own policies. >> we're going to a majority of takers versus makers in america. >> dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz responds tonight. plus, senator barbara boxer on her new plan for national polling place standards. and a new poll shows half of all republicans think the defunct group a.c.o.r.n. stole the election from president
, that's right. now, this may well present a problem for john boehner's caucus, because john boehner sent a letter to the president this week with his own plan, which advocates what just might be the least popular policy in american politics. okay, maybe that's hyperbole.ç but just be a tiny bit, i mean, mandatory gay marriage, in which every single married straight person had to immediately divorce their spouse, and accept a state-assigned same-gender spouse to replace them would probably be more popular than what john boehner proposed this week. what john boehner is advocating is making medicare available to fewer americans. as it happens, there is brand-new polling out today on how americans feel about the idea of congress using these deficit negotiations to make cuts to medicare. 79% of americans say they do not want congress to touch medicare in these deficit negotiations. 79%. if you want to get specific about john boehner's proposal, what he wants to do to medicare is to raise the eligibility age from 65 to 67. and as it turns out, there is also recent polling on that specific pr
cliff blame game on friday. the rhetoric heats up as the clock winds down. today house speaker boehner and nancy pelosi held duelling news conferences slamming the other side for not taking the looming crisis seriously. >> this isn't a progress report, because there's no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> we've had time. the president has given the republicans flexibility to come up with a credible, specific plan. what they offered in return was an empty letter lacking in specifics. >> meanwhile, vice president biden is having lunch with several middle class americans who would see their income taxes go up if the tax cuts are not extended. all of this comes as the first jobs report since the election exceeded expectations. the u.s. economy added some 146,000 jobs last month. that was enough it to drive the unemployment rate down to 7.7%. joining me to talk about all of it, florida congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz and she chairs the democratic national committee. goo
closer together? >> reporter: there are two important signs today. speaker, house speaker john boehner met with president obama at the. we don't know how long they met or exactly what they talked about, but the white house says lines of communication are open and face-to-face meeting is on important. at the same time republicans say they will accept the demands for higher taxes on the wealthy if it goes along with spending cuts entitlements like medicare and social security. listen.... >> a lot of people are putting forth a theory. i think it has merit where you give the president 2% increase he is talking about on the top 2 percent. i am beginning to believe that is the best route for us to take. >> reporter: many other republicans, of course, standing firm against any tax increase. they could give the speaker a hard time if he tries to pass the kind of legislation corker was talking about there. >> and how are the democrats reacting to accept the higher tax rates? >> reporter: they are happy to see movement was made toward the president's position but speaker boehner has not embraced
with proxies in media, most recent offer cuts that number to $1.4 trillions. house speaker boehner told his caucus, both sides are not close on a deal to avoid the cliff, minority leader nancy pelosi ripping republican leadership from house floor in what can be described as a bizarre rant that ended with a compliment of the speaker. >> it really getting boring. it is smacks a little bit of nero, figure it out, we did. figure it out. then, go forward and continue to debate the issue. i believe he is a important of good intention, maybe that gets me into trouble my saying that. lou: to surprise of many in washington boehner appears to have support of more voters than anyone thought previously, a new fox poll shows 3 a 3 to 1 margin, voters believe by enacting mostly spending cuts is the best way to deal with the problem. president obama continue its push his ultimatum on higher taxes for wealthy, and republican leaders responding by warning their members to be prepared for christmas in washington because of the stalemate. and joining us now, congressman devon nunez, a member of house aways an
- called fiscal cliff, president obama and house speaker john boehner met today. >> they said the lines of communication remain open. this comes after the head of the international my terry fund got tough on at the sunday talk shows. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> a quick fix is not the answer for resolving the fiscal crisis, said the director of the international monetary fund. a more comprehensive solution is needed. christine the guard says any deal between president obama and congressional republicans must do more than simply avoid the fiscal cliff to get america pause economy growing again. >> there is still the degree of uncertainty. investors, entrepreneurs households, are not making decisions because they do not know what tomorrow will be. >> but washington's top republican leader, house speaker john boehner, complains there has been no progress in avoiding even immediate crisis. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff disrupting our economy and threaten jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> democrats shona signs of backing off from
. and the republicans, boehner's got to go to work and come back, and now there's 70 of them left, the tea party guys. these are guys who went to congress not to limit government but to stop it. so what are you going to do? we've got five democrats, five republicans who range from dick durbin of illinois, great progressive democrat, and coburn of oklahoma, a progressive conservative, and five dems, five republicans, one independent, that's a super majority. and for god's sake, the reason we were so successful is we effectively pissed off everybody in america. >> congratulations, sir. kudos. kudos to you. >> good morning. it's thursday, december 6th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, msnbc political analyst, former democratic congressman, harold ford jr. >> mr. professor. >> good morning. >> professor. >> and we have former treasury official and "morning joe" economic analyst, steve rattner. >> financier. >> rattner is here. i like -- and we have to go back to that. it's the truth. >> it is! >> money is money. >> in washington, msnbc and "time" senior political analyst, mark halperin. >> we sa
. he will say they forced me to extend the tax cuts and now they are coming to me. and boehner offers $800 billion and they brush it aside to say we need $1.6 trillion and we need the rates to go up. go back and do your paper again, mr. boehner. i think again you are getting arrogance and huborous on the part of the president, who has a hand in this, and i think if he goes off that's a bridge too far for him. if he goes off to hawaii and spends three weeks there, and no deal happens and the fiscal cliff hits and we've got the largest tax increase in history and the markets plummet and he's sitting over there splashing in the surf, i don't think he can do it. >> i wonder what other nations think about us? this is, you know, is it a terrible problem we are going through right now, but we look like we can't handle our own business. we can't talk to each other, we can't figure out our own economics, and i can't think what kind of morale authority do we have in the world when we look so pathetic, so pathetic in terms of how we handle things and the fact that we don't? >> the problem with t
in the room, the president and the leader of the opposition, john boehner, the speaker. they may be closer, some argue, to an agreement than we think. the question is can they sell the deal to their bases, to their fringies, left and right i must say. >>> plus, republicans say they would change after the lek and they are. guess what? they're changing the rules. some of them are proposing to republicans in pennsylvania and three other states obama won. they're trying to eliminate the winner take all system of awarding electoral votes. that way republicans could win electoral votes in states they lose. >>> new jersey governor chris christie finally meets his idol. the man he's seen in concert more than 100 times. the governor and the boss, bruce springsteen. they're friends now. this is "hardball," the place for politics. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's a
have a great night. >>> john boehner is now >> this isn't a progress report because there is no progress to report. >> fiscal cliff negotiations. >> one-on-one right now. >> are now a party of two. >> the two most important players. >> the president and the speaker. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner. >> a two-man operation. >> there is no progress. >> we are seeing progress. >> there is a jobs report today. >> unemployment down to 7.7%. better than expected. thank you very much. >> we dropped a whole point in a year. >> there is no progress. >> members of congress are always upset. >> they are taking us to the cliff. >> the momentum is with the president. >> republicans are totally over the barrel. >> did you say over? >> they should give in to obama on the tax rate? >> nothing is over until we decide it is! >> we didn't elect them to raise rate. >> not me! >> we don't have a revenue problem. >> i'm not going to take this. >> when are you going to fight? >> let's do it! >> how is that winning? that isn't winning. >> i don't think republicans will win.
logistics. >>> john boehner wants paul ryan and eric cantor to help keep the tea party from spoiling any fiscal plans. i'm joined with an update from capitol hill. that's coming up. and dick cheney is sticking to his guns and still lying about iraq and afghanistan. find out what he says about the president's handling of the affairs in the middle east. colonel lawrence wilkerson is here to respond. my name is marjorie reyes, and i'm a chief warrant officer. i love the fact that quicken loans provides va loans. quicken loans understood the details and guided me through every step of the process. i know wherever the military sends me, i can depend on quicken loans. wherever the military sends me, ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or
. >> brings more obstruction from speaker boehner. >> the white house has wasted another week. washington has a spending problem, not a revenue problem. >> and a dodge on jobs. >> why take such a risk when the jobs number is improving? >> well, because the risk the president wants us to take, increasing tax rates, will hit many small businesses. >> this is a moment of truth. the clock is ticking. christmas is coming. the goose is getting fat. >> plus, go on. >> south carolina senator jim demint is dequitting. >> run stephen, run. >> you want somebody young, conservative, from south carolina. maybe who has super pac pointing -- wait a second. ♪ >> thank goodness it's friday and it's a busy one at that. we have breaking news. within the last hour, the supreme court has announced that it will for the first time take up appeals on same-sex marriage. hearing cases on the defense of marriage act and california's proposition 8. much more on that in a moment, and the busy week ends with some good news for america's workers and the president. a little christmas cheer some early. the u.s. economy gen
very good. here's speaker boehner and the president talking at the end of the week. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff, this threatening of our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk or economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> so here's my sense, congressman mccarthy. why in the minds of republicans aren't they processing it this way? look, president, we'll give you what you want on rates. let them go up. but we have to get something in return. big cuts in the medicare program, and we're willing to make a deal is. that essentially the thinking of speaker boehner at this point? >> the president wants the rates to go up, that doesn't solve the problem and we don't want to be back here in another year or 10 years answering the same question. but right after the election, we sent a plan to the president where we gave revenues but looking for spending cuts. and he took t
night. >>> tonight, who in america is betting on john boehner in his tax showdown with president obama? exactly no one. not even rush limbaugh. >> i don't think there's a republican alive who could stop what's going to happen. >> with the fiscal cliff just 22 days away. >> we're down to the final three weeks. >> the president is on the move. >> i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> president obama on the ground in michigan. >> i will work with republicans. >> delivering a speech at an engine manufacturing plant. >> i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> they are ready to make a deal. >> they are ready to make a deal on tax rates. >> republicans know that they have to give on taxes. >> i don't think there's a republican alive who can stop what is happening. >> senator corker has nailed this one. >> the leverage is going to shift. >> you have to have leverage. >> we don't have the leverage. the power isn't there. >> could a secret meeting seal the deal when it come to the fiscal cliff? the white house says it can happen. >> president ob
in there tangoing, you've got a chance to get it done. >> president obama and speaker boehner negotiate face to face at the white house. >> republicans are softening their resistance to a tax increase for the rich, but they want something in return. >> there is a growing group of folks realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it related to the tax issue. >> an american doctor who had been kidnapped by the taliban in afghanistan was rescued. >> dr. dilip joseph is free, but one u.s. navy seal lost his life in this mission. >> this fallen hero was a member of navy s.e.a.l. team 6. >> condolences pouring in after the tragic death of mexican-american singer jenni rivera, killed in a plane crash. >> for the first time since their prank call that led to the apparent suicide of kate middleton's nurse, those radio hosts are speaking out. >> we didn't have any idea like something like this could possibly happen. we couldn't see this p haing. it was meant to be a prank call. >> the midwest covered in snow this morning. some saw up to 17 inches of snow. >> you head out with your well dressed pet monkey.
of the country. >>> gasoline almost half a buck cheaper and going lower as obama and boehner meet face to face to peer over the looming fist cliff. >>> the latest on the death of the royal nurse. >>> handcuffed man makes off with a police cruiser. >>> and could hillary clinton be presented with an offer she can't refuse? >>> very good morning to you, i'm veronica de la cruz. right now residents in the midwest are waking up to some of the heaviest snowfall they've seen in two months. a low moving storm dumped more than a foot. 150 flight cancellations and delays at minneapolis st. paul airport. nbc meteorologist bill karins has been tracking those storms. it looks bad. >> impressive. ten inches in minneapolis. winter has arrived and in a big way through the middle of the country. the wind chills are brutal this morning. all of this mess is now sliding to the east coast. thankfully not the snow and ice. the storm itself is actually located over lower michigan heading up towards just north of buffalo. these storms in the winter that track up into canada drag warmer air to the east coast. that's w
at the congress and you have john boehner as the speaker, is there any hope that he would even consider a gun control or is this the republican party in washington right now? >> i think you have to go about it the right way. you have to build that public support and marshall the public support that already exists and make it clear to leaders like john boehner that in the american public, even among his constituents, his party days, gun owners, that that support for example exists. >> frank luntz i guess the go to guy. the brady bill was perhaps the high point of this effort, so the attempted assassination of a president, and issuing of this press secretary to galvanize public opinion. you think of aurora, how could that not have brought us to this point? >> the sad part of aurora is part of the long list of sort of the workplace or public shooting rampages again i, you know, the press coverage in 48 hours for a week and then they disappear. the problem with the john boehner experience again they respond to fox news. if they can't even handle bob costas having a one minute conversation or dial
. interesting. president obama and speaker boehner. nobody else. with 24 days before a year-end deadline, "the new york times" says boehner made the request to clear the negotiation room going forward, leaving it up to himself and the president to reach a deal to avoid automatic tax hikes and deep spending cuts. and while the two men may be negotiating privately, yesterday the president took his message to the public, visiting a local virginia family as a part of his my2k social media campaign, sitting around the kitchen table. he told the family he was optimistic. >> the message that i think we all want to send to members of congress is, this is a solvable problem. the senate has already passed a bill that would make sure the middle-class taxes don't go up next year by a single dime. just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> what great news, i think. don't you think so
boehner. >>> plus, karl rove hasn't learned a thing is since its infamous air meltdown. why is he questioning polls again? >>> and a very special guest is here with me tonight. we have a gold medal winner onset. gabby douglas live in the studio. her story of sacrifice inspired a country. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. initiated. neural speeds increasing to 4g lte. brain upgrading to a quad-core processor. predictive intelligence with google now complete. introducing droid dna by htc. it's not an upgrade to your phone. it's an upgrade to yourself. >>> have you joined the "politicsnation" conversation on facebook yet? we hope you will. today our fans were buzzing over the newly released photo of the president on the phone with mitt romney as he conceded to him on election night. he have len says, the president was probably so glad it was over so that he could get back to working for our country. david says, he must have been elated and relieved. linda says, i know how he felt. so happy. we want to hear your thoughts on this picture. and any other story you are interested
that means the president and house speaker boehner have five days max to reach an agreement. that takes us to the 15th. then the legislation has to be written by the 18th. the president is now working two strategies to get a deal done. he met with speaker boehner yesterday. that's the first face to face in nearly a month and their one on one first one since july 2011. now, the other strategy as michigan congressman clark explains is going to the people. >> i think the best way to break this political gridlock in washington is to go to the american people because it's we the people that demand that the politicians and congress resolve this fiscal cliff but resolve in it a way that makes our country stronger. >> let me bring in the "news nation" political panel. neimalik henderson and goodfreend and contributor michael smerkonish. you the people, you talk to folks all day long on the radio show that you have that's syndicated in cities and states. what do you make of the president picking up where he left off so often going straight to the folks at snoem. >> he is really mained a full court
. speaker john boehner meets this morning with house republicans who are angry at his new pitch to raise $800 billion in tax revenue in the fiscal cliff negotiations. president obama has said there will be no deal unless taxes are raised on the wealthiest americ americans. but staunch conservatives don't want any kind of new taxes. that's where speaker boehner's job gets really tough. on piers morgan tonight newt gingrich said if all else fails, go over the cliff. >> i think that no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two years to an even bigger cliff. i think that the president clearly has staked out a position of nonseriousness. and i think that it's very difficult for the house republicans right now to find any practical way to get his attention. so, he just won an election. he is feeling very good about himself. he is posturing brilliantly, putting the republicans in a corner. they need to relax. they don't have an election until november 2014. >> senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins m
, than in january with the world economy in turmoil and second recession coming. number two, john boehner, the speaker is claiming he's met obama's demand for higher taxes for the rich. that's good. he agreed in principle the rich must pay more. number three, there's talk for the republican leaders that they could vote to continue the tax cuts for the 98% now and therefore avoid the fiscal cliff and put off for now the top 2%. and the question then, let the debt ceiling not take effect. a tax cut delayed i argue is a tax cut avoided. joining me with the republican defense highly tauted fan of the eagles, ed rendell and alex wagner of msnbc's "now." governor, i want you to read what's going on here. first speaker boehner defended the gop's tax proposal saying it does take a bite out of the rich but president obama held firm to tax rate hike on the wealthiest. let's listen to the back and forth. >> revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the sameç people pay moref their money to the feder
called speaker boehner their first conversation of the week. the two sides agreed on one thing. they wouldn't characterize the conversation. aides even refused to say how long the two leaders talked. this latest move, though, treasury secretary timothy geithner showed cnbc wednesday the white house is prepared to go over the cliff if democrats and republicans fail to get a deal done. >> when it comes to raising taxes on the wealthy, those making more than $250,000, if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there is no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. >> and that is the important phrase there, prepared to go off the cliff if there is no agreement on raising those rates. we're going to get to that in a minute. utah republican senator orrin hatch fired back and said, quote this, is one of the most stunning and irresponsible statements i've heard in some time. the american people want us to find a reasonable path forward not to rattle o
stalemated over how to avoid automatic tax hikes and spending cuts, come january. house speaker john boehner did speak by phone to president obama this week, and it was widely reported the two have agreed to negotiate directly with each other. but boehner said today, "there's no progress to report." >> four days ago, we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> sreenivasan: the president has insisted there will be no deal unless republicans agree to raise tax rates on the top 2%. republicans say the tax hikes would only hurt job creation. but in arlington, virginia, vice president biden said today's jobs report shows the economy is turning a corner, so it's critical to get a deal. >> there is a sense... there is a sense that if we can reach an- - act like adults and reach an agreement here on the fiscal cliff, the upside is much higher e
asked if it could be 37%, hedged on the question. even john boehner initial why when asked this question hedged a little bit. speaking of republicans, a rising star, senator marco rubio had this response in the weekly gop response to the president. >> we must get the national debt under control. tax increases will not solve our $16 trillion debt. only economic growth and a reform of sbilgsment programs will help control the debt. we must reform our complicated uncertain job killing tax code by getting rid of unjustified loopholes. but our goal should be generating revenue by creating new taxpayers not new taxes. >>> so alex, the question, your initial question, can it get done? the answer is yes. joe biden joked yesterday he could run it up to the hill from the white house in 15 minutes and run it back and have the president sign it. maybe not that quick. but most people believe if the will is there and votes are there it could get done in relatively short order. >> that's the big question. the vice president would only be able to get that to send to the president if the republicans put
me. >> good to be here. >> david so house speaker john boehner says there's no progress to report. the white house says republicans are to blame for dragging their feet. it seems at least publicly we're getting nowhere. is there anything bigger churning behind the scenes? >> alex, i wish i had good news for you. there's not much going on. certainly at the staff level there's still talks going on. the president did have an onization with john boehner. both sides publicly at least are blaming the others for delaying here. i think both sides are said we know what we want to do, which is for the white house raise rates on the rich. but what can they talk about behind the scenes when the republicans are saying we don't want to do that, on the flip side the white house is saying they don't want to do the republican idea of just capping loop holes at least right now. they want to do that next year with a broader tax reform debate. right now there's not a lot to talk about. the president is going on the road again to detroit on monday and continue his public relations campaign on this to
if the republicans agree to tax the rich directly. he will only accept higher tax rates. how will speaker boehner respond to that? he speaks within the hour. and how about this, top anchors at a news network visit the white house for a cozy chat with the president. tell us, mr. president, how can we sell your tax the rich policy? citigroup, 11,000 jobs gone. "varney & company" about to begin. having you shipy gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ me announcer ] break from e holiday stress fedex office. >> we'll begin with sad news. dame elizabeth mother of news corporation chairman and chief executive rupert murdoch died at age 103. news point company fox. now sad news. and he's raised tax rates and he was elected based on his tax the rich policy. he says that america is poised to take off and if it doesn't, it's the republicans fault. listen. >> you have the u.s. chamber of commerce hardly an arm of my administration or the democratic party. i think, said the ot
of the opposition, john boehner, the speaker. should be interesting. they may be closer, some argue, to an agreement than we think. the question is can they sell the deal to their bases, to their fringies, left and right i must say. >>> plus, republicans say they would change after the election and they are. guess what? they're changing the rules. some of them are proposing to republicans in pennsylvania and three other states obama won, they're trying to eliminate the winner-take-all system of awarding electoral votes. why not? that way republicans could win electoral votes in states they lose. that's a good deal. >>> new jersey governor chris christie finally meets his idol. new jersey's most famous resident, the man he has seen in concert more than 100 times. the governor and the boss, bruce springsteen. they're friends now. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ male announcer ] take dayquil... [ ding! ] ...and spend time on the slopes. take alka-seltzer plus cold & cough... [ buzz! ] ...and spend time on the chair. for non-drowsy 6-symptom cold & flu relief. take dayquil. use nyquil d...
. ? in washington, closed door meetings with the president and john boehner. >>> in the midwest, the fiscal cliff is the latest thing on people's minds as the first blizzard of the winter brings the region to a halt, highways closed and scores of flights canceled. that story is just ahead. >>> first, let's get to the news live at 5:30 here at "30 rock" in new york city. well, we begin with the new urgency in the fiscal cliff negotiations with now just 21 days, three weeks to reach a deal. today president obama returns to campaign mode taking the fiscal cliff message to detroit. yesterday the president and speaker boehner met privately at the white house, their first face-to-face meeting since they agreed last week to clear everyone else out of the negotiating room. so what happened? well, neither side revealed anything about the meetings, only saying that the lines of communication remain open. but yesterday another influential republican, senator bob corker from the senate banking commission said his party should consider the president's idea of raising tax rates on the wealthy. >> there is a gr
speaker boehner has alluded to -- u don't like that either? >> i don't like that if we could lower individual rates. i have advocated ta tax reform, cut until we get fundamental tax reform, let's lower their rights. neil: okay. that does not seem to be in the offing. the first deal we're told is that one -- taxes on upper income will go up whether they are rates or limiting their deductions is that a fore gone conclusion to your colleagues? do you seehis as the case, despite what you believe? >> i'm not sure, we had a few republicans speak out, and say we want a deal at just about any cost. you should not negotiate in public. would like to see what a real core caucus would do on anything, i am going to oppose any rise in people's income tax. i've seen that movie before, it will come back, if it a year or two it is more taxes and it will get to middle class. big time. neil: so one thing that comes up is history, every time republicans have agreed to look at revenues and move on revenues, whether during ron a ronald reagan or bush sr., the other part did not materialize, that is what
in the negotiations if there were negotiations. president obama and speaker john boehner actually talked to one another. it was on the telephone. it was not the face-to-face meeting the speaker says is necessary, but it was the first time that the two men have spoken in a week. for the latest on these stalled negotiations, we turn to fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry for the report. >> trying to lay blame for stalled budget talks on republicans, president obama today wratcheted up pressure on boehner. >> nobody wants this done more than me. >> for the first time, plan for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff warning business executives, the economy could take another hit if republicans decide to extend just to middle class tax cuts to avoid the cliff for now and come back next year with more leverage to tie spending cuts and medicare reform to another hike in the nation's debt ceiling. >> we're not going to play that game next year. if congress, in any way suggests they tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the brink of default again as part of
. meanwhile, in the republican house a purge is under way with speaker boehner dumping uncontrollable right wingers from prize committee assignments. they're out because they're too right. so what is too right for the republicans following the defeat this week or their defeat last month? is voting nay in the senate against a handicap rights treaty because it carries the nightmare dread of blue helmets riding black helicopters sweeping into your home school room. is that okay? what's out? what's in in the republican party that just took a licking? bob shrum is a democratic strategist and columnist at the daily beast, and john brabender ran rick santorum's presidential campaign. i expect you gentleman to play fair and aim directly below the belt. just kidding, bob. i want to ask you as a liberal, a progressive, looking across at the right you see jim demint, a guy the late tim russert once said i can't believe jim demint is a senator. he is the leader, the ramrod of all those right wing challenges. he put up ron johnson to beat mitch mcconnell because he's too liberal. he's leaving, quitting
the national christmas tree. after that, the capital -- capitol christmas tree lighting with john boehner. tomorrow, on washington journal, guests discussed the latest on the so-called fiscal cliff negotiations and the week ahead. a politico reporter looks at the lobbyist involvement in those negotiations. and an update on the situation in syria. live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c- span. >> the supreme court will look at what was passed in 2008 by a majority of 63, i believe and they are going to say that is president. and indiana -- >> we are talking about facts. when they decided the indiana case, it was constitutional for them to establish it. they did not say all the states -- >> correct. they talked about indiana. let me finish peeping >> you are misrepresenting. >> no, i am not. >> i hear these accusations that black people, a voter i.d. lost disproportionately affect minorities. it implies to me that we have something missing in our brains. to me, if white americans can get it to vote and go through all the processes to follow the laws, what are you telling black people? that somehow t
obama and house speaker boehner on the so-called fiscal cliff. and the two most important players involving the financial future of our nation. i'm harris falkner, we're told a meeting was held behind closed door and without the media's knowledge and both men tight-lipped about what was said and when we asked for comments, both giving us the same statement, quote, this afternoon the president and speaker boehner met at the white house to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff, we're not reading out details of the communication, but the lines of communication remain open, end quote. this meeting comes as the white house and congress appear to be at at impasse, you know by now is crippling spending and tax hikes and could cost us jobs and send us back into recession and to solve the problem, republicans say we must prevent our ballooning national debt from crushing generations. and chief white house correspondent now ed henry joins us by phone with the latest on this breaking story, ed, they kept this under wraps. how big after deal is this? >> good evening, harris, there's not
>>> boehner trying to prevent the fiscal cliff now 23 days away. no details on their conversations but reps for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the last time the president and the speaker met in person to talk about the fiscal cliff was more than three weeks ago. >>> and just after midnight on sunday, making history. the governor signed the voter-approved referendum into law on wednesday. >>> and hugo chavez is returning to cuba for more cancer surgery but this time he is making sure a new leader is in place in case he doesn't return, and he named the vice president as his choice for a replacement in case something happens for him. the 58-year-old president is still scheduled to be sworn in for a new six--year-term on january 10th. >>> sad news for fans of music star jenny rivera. there doesn't appear to be any survivors. the plane lost contact with air traffic controllers early this morning. so far no cause has been given for that crash. >>> the national menorah in front of the white house was illuminated tonight marking the first day of hanukkah. and no han
approaching, last night house spaeker john boehner took a break from the fight. . >> god bless us, everyone. and from my family to yours merry christmas. >> five, four, three, two, one. good job. >> well, that was one countdown clock. this morning the president is going to tell a graup of ceos that businesses need the certainty that middle class families won't see their taxes go up it at the end of the year. the president made it clear in his first interview since being re-elected on bloomberg news that he does not plan to budge on the idea of raising tax rates for the wealthiest 2% of americans. >> unfortunately it is still out of balance. $800 billion worth of revenues but he says he'll do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. we're going to have to see the top 02% go up. we're not going to be able to to get a deal without it. >> leaving open the possibility that they could come down again next year as part of comprehensive tax reform. >> let's let those go up and then let's set up a process for a time surgeon end of 2013 or the fall of 2013 where we work on
, president obama, house speaker john boehner, met face to face at the white house today for the first time in more than three weeks. we do not have any details about today's conversations but reps on both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the two men last met on november 16th. also today, another republican senator announced his support for raising tax rates on wealthy americans. tennessee senator bob corker says if the gop agrees to the wealthy tax hike, republicans would be better positioned to negotiate for bigger spending cuts on social security and medicare. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year-end. a lot of people are putting forth a theory and i think it has merit where you give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2%. and all of a sudden, the shift goes back to entitlements. and all of a sudden, once you give him the rate on the top 2%, it's actually much lesser tax increase than what he's been talking abo
>>> i'm toure. look who's talking. president obama and speaker boehner. they had a weekend rendezvous at the white house. taxes, spending cuts. >>> i'm susan in for s.e. today. michigan's governor driving the motor city in to a fight over the unions. why's the president playing backseat driver? >>> i'm steve kornacki. there's outrage maybe even criminal charges coming in that death of the nurse in england. wait a minute. are we being too hard on the pranksters? >> i'm krystal ball. in to the holiday spiritual. our friend is back at the table with tips to dare we say it enjoy the season? >>> all and that a federal case of it. why when it comes to gay marriage the train can't be stop. neither can we. it's "the cycle" and it's monday, december 10th. >>> it's monday, fun day here at "the cycle." let's get the party started. where will it land today? fiscal cliff? huh. so much for fun. well you know what? we at "the cycle" can make it fun. look at this. the president living it up in motown last hour calling on republicans to stop being party poopers. >> i believe america only su
of a deal in sight, house speaker boehner accused the president of holding back when it comes to spending cuts. >> the longer white house slow walk this is process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. we know that the president wants more stimulus spending and increase in the debt limit without any cuts or reforms. that's not fixing our problem. frankly, it's making it worse. >> let me bring in our "news nation" political panel this hour. chris cafinus, michael smerkonish and louies romanis. what are we to make of speaker boehner coming out today, not sure of the overall message other than he wanted to have, i guess, a sound bite to play today as we continue to talk and the president is off at least negotiating behind the scenes on the fiscal cliff. >> i think you called it, tamron. look, the rhetoric is scaled back dramatically in the last few days. they're talking and seriously evidenced by the fact we're not learning that much. they're keeping it pretty close to the vest. i think the speaker is under enormous pressure of his own caucus to get something, to extract somethin
speaker john boehner. the timing is a clear indication that many in washington are realize time is out to find a deal on fiscal cliff. wherego to the newsroom richard will tell us. president and house speaker john boehner met privately. both emphasize the lines of communication remain open. one person watching all this is a woman with to power brokers on capitol hill. f is very muchclif the mind of linda. they need to put aside these differences they have. of 10 employees at the capitol hill that counts house itsker john boehner among customers. she worries about the year and a possible government cutbacks. >> they are our main source of keeping the business open. if it goes down any further, we might end up closing up. k of a deficit deal a $800 billion in domestic and defense cuts that family taxes could rise $3,500. is going to be a lot of suffering among a lot of people who deserve otherwise. the white house wants a tax on the rich and increase on the debt limit. say tax tight cost american jobs. medicare is going bankrupt, inability will be bankrupt two years. of democratsity repu
and john boehner spoke by phone. >> we cannot negotiate by ourselves. >> the hold up right now is that speaker boehner took a position, i think the day after the campaign, but said we're willing to bring in revenue but not increase rates. >> gridlock, 26 days and counting. >> no word on what the president and speaker boehner discussed, but given the fact that there has not been progress, just the fact they were on the phone represents a small development. >> still to come, he has been through hundreds of deals and no deals, has decided if america has talent, and now he is taking it all. howie mandel joins us about his new holiday game show. >> sunshine. clouds to the northwest. that is what we will watch. watch. is the fastest internet in america. just ask pc mag. [ male announcer #2 ] cable can't touch fios upload speeds. it's hard to imagine anyone ever beating fios. there's no doubt fios is the fastest in the country. [ male announcer #1 ] after 110,000 speed tests, nothing came close to fios. upgrade now with this amazing holiday deal and get fios internet, tv and phone for
boehner sit down at the white house and try to make some headway on a deal. they're quiet about what happened but the president will loudly make it clear what he wants again today and he's on the road in michigan. also this morning one half of america's favorite fiscal friendship will be here. erskine bowles on debt deal making, whether he wants to work for the obama administration and his pal simpson's newfound love for deficit hawk gangnam style. plus, what will had hillary clinton do next. the secretary of state's future. some of clinton's closest allies are keeping very quiet which actually was surprising. good morning. from washington it's monday, december 10, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. we're in double digits in december. what does that mean? it means we're finally at the serious phase of the fiscal negotiations. three weeks to go before the proverbial fiscal cliff. actually it's not proverbial. so-called, right? let's not hope this becomes proverbial. anyway, the president's photo-op of the day will be at a suburban detroit auto plant. >> if we're seriou
with democrats defecting from the boehner plan. in the meantime, a nice game for the day for the dow, but a stunning selloff for apple. do you know what? fiscal cliff or not, the s&p 500 is up 12% year to date. that is a handsome gain for investors, an optimistic year, believe it or not. and we already bailed out detroit's auto industry. but now, at least one motown politician is telling president obama he should bail out detroit bankrupt city government, too. this sure isn't the free market, and i asked why should a texas taxpayer bail out detroit? >>> breaking news from syria, and it is a blockbuster. the assad regime is walking and loading its chemical weapons, ready to use them on its own people. nbc's chief pentagon correspondent joins us now. jim, is this the red line president obama was warning about? >> well, not quite yet. u.s. officials tell us that the syrian military is poised to use chemical weapons against their own people, and all it would take really is the final order from syrian president assad. but we have learned that as of today, all the precursored chemicals for
: thank you, sandra smith. connell: we are waiting to hear from the speaker of the house, john boehner. dagen: stay right here on fox business and you will hear the speaker speak coming right up. ♪ dennis: i am dennis kneale. cheryl: i am cheryl casone. breaking news at the top of the hour. we are moments away from tree to be event, up 109 points. john boehner taking fiscal cliff talks and that is raising hopes among traders. cheryl: we are going to take a look at what is beyond the fiscal cliff even of washington save the country from going over that cliff we have a stock panel that has lots of worries and a bit of hope that. dennis: which makes some buzz codes when the dow is up 111. michigan's capital and besieged as protests over the right to work legislation has taken an ugly turn. we are live. cheryl: never know what is going to happen with jeff flock covering that story. we're coming up on the top of the hour. stocks every 15 minutes and nicole petallides on the floor of the stock exchange with a nice triple digit gain. nicole: what a gain on wall street. we have three straigh
: house speaker john boehner coming out on top. what was the intra party skirmish all about? we have the answers. a big seat to fill, they call him the king maker. conservative senator jim demint calling it quits who. will step in and what the change will mean for the next congress. if you're looking for an out of this world vacation, yes, you can have it literally, a trip to the moon for two, we are guessing it is all-inclusive, the whole story and the stunning price tag, all "happening now." good morning to you on this friday, the jobs numbers are in for november. i'm jon scott help the. >> reporter: i'm heather wheuld dreshelp the heather childress in nor jenna lee. >> it had more stimulus spending than it had in cuts and an indefinite, infinite increase in the debt limit like forever. four days ago we offered a serious proceed proceeds albased on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counter offer from the white house. instead reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the ed
until our nation potentially tumbles over what we call the fiscal cliff. john boehner says there's been no real progress in the negotiations between the white house and lawmakers on capitol hill. now he's accusing president obama of dragging his feet as the deadline looms. is more of the same in store for the week ahead? joining us, managing edit for of the hill. >> good morning. >> we talk about this happening and going over the cliff. speaker boehner accuses the white house of dragging its feet. >> president obama offered a proposal, republicans didn't like that plan. now the g.o.p. has countered. so the ball is in the white house's court and that's what republicans are basically waiting for. but i don't see -- i don't think you'll see real progress over the next week. we are about two weeks away from christmas. three weeks until we hit the deadline and they're nowhere. what speaker boehner said correct. there's been no progress and there will be nor jockeying and leverage the next week. >> i want to point out in the president's weekly address that was issued yesterday, he says there'
of the house john boehner are getting closer to reaching a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. john boehner says last week's offer stands and it doesn't include higher tax rates on the wealthy. the white house says there can't be a deal without the increase. >> people are disgusted at the notion of a fiscal cliff took their feelings to the streets today. [ singing ] >> 75 protesters rallied downtown at noon and the raging grannies sang. the demonstration was organized by the american dream counsel and moveon.org. they are asking the public to contact john boehner. >> we are focusing our rally on john boehner and asking him to pay attention to what is good for the country instead of protecting himself. >> the group says they will target any lawmaker who tries to cut a deal over the fiscal cliff. >>> thousands will pause saturday to remember those who lost their lives serving our country. [ bagpipes playing ] >> the kickoff was held today at the state capttle. -- capital. >> makes you quietly think that, one, you are glad to be an american, you have to say thank you to these individuals who gave t
speaker john boehner, trying to strike a deal to avert the looming fiscal cliff. >> reporter: you know, aides are providing no details, radio silence here, it was all done out of camera range, but you're right, sometime this afternoon, house speaker john boehner was here to meet face to face with president obama. it's the first glimmer of hope after weeks of stalemates. today a warning to republicans from a top senate democrat, no hike in taxes on the wealthy, no deal on the debt. >> even if it means going over the cliff? >> i don't want to do it, the president doesn't want to do it but we need to solve the problem. we do not want to drive this economy into another recession. a recession that the republicans will own. >> if we were to pass, for instance, raising the top two rates and that's it, all of a sudden, we do have the leverage of the debt ceiling and we haven't given that up. >> reporter: congress must again vote to raise that debt ceiling early next year, that would mean a replay of last year's battle and a chance for republicans to regain the upper hand. the president has la
. but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> okay. here is john boehner, the republican house speaker. >> if you look at the plans that the white house have talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. >> republicans proposed raising $800 billion in extra revenues. and that revenue should come through tax reform and closing loopholes. happy new year. question, patrick, looking into the crystal ball and tell us about this january 1 monetary nuclear bomb. are we going over the cliff, patrick? >> i think i believe we may not be going over the cliff. i think this week has led me to believe there are the terms of a deal, john. the $800 billion boehner offered, i'm sure he will go up a bit. he won't go to 39% on tax rates. republicans are willing to go to i think 37%. the truth is, republicans are capitulating all along the line here, john. they're more afraid of going over the cliff than obama is. and i fear that the republicans are going to re-establish their reputation as the tax collectors of the welfare state. >> has president ob
and house speaker john boehner get together to discuss the fiscal cliff. >>> jenny rivera and others have been killed in a small plane crash. >>> the dallas cowboys win as the clock runs out, just as teammate leaves jail, charged in the death of his long-time friend. >>> good monday morning, i'm sunny hostin, paula faris is off. >> i'm john muller in for rob nelson. >>> we begin this monday with daring u.s. military raid thaet saved the life of an american doctor held hostage in afghanistan. it cost a member of the elite s.e.a.l. team six. >> the president said he and his teammates remind us once more of the selfless service that allows our country to stay strong, safe, and free. >> leon panetta added in this fallen hero and our special operator, americans see the highest ideals of citizenship, sacrifice and service upheld. >> reporter: it happened under the cover of darkness. to rescue this man, philip jose joseph, an american doctor working for morning star development. >> it's team with lots of training on hostage rescues. until you get in there and do it, you don't know what you'll fi
't deal unless the republicans agree to raise the top rates or revenues, then boehner needs to understand this reality and not under any circumstances surrender or appear weak. now what that means specifically is boehner cannot allow himself to begin to negotiate with himself anda republicans because all that will do is vindicate and reward obama's inflexibility and cause a fierce fight within the gop and conservative. i get the feeling with each and every day as republicans move closer and closer to the obama position, that they are too afraid to go over the clip. they are too willing to make a deal, any deal, no matter how bad that might be. that's the danger. and there's a feeling out there these days in terms of the body language and the posture of the republican leadership, that's the direction they are headed. they look like they are atrade. they look like they want to deal and if they don't get one, the world is going to come crashing down on them. that's the mind-set that needs to change. so if boehner and company need to do are the following. one, they need to understand the game
for the last word. have a great night. >> it's back! the debt ceiling. >> house speaker john boehner took to the house floor only a few hours ago. >> john boehner was on the floor. >> people know that the president and i met on sunday. >> and said his meeting was nice. >> it was a nice meeting. it was cordial. >> cordial. >> we have to cut spending. >> holding back when it comes to spending cuts. >> republicans have been ratcheting up their rhetoric. >> get the tax issue off the table. >> we don't have the leverage. >> you can't tax your way out of this baby. >> throw in the towel on this tax rates issue. >> they have the debt ceiling. >> keep your eye on the debt ceiling. >> the debt ceiling part of this deal. >> the leverage is going to shift. >> it's their leverage. >> the leverage is going to shift. >> and maybe their only leverage. >> and you want to have leverage. >> that's leverage. >> that's making it worse. >> investors are preparing to go off the cliff. >> this is almost a game of chicken. >> negotiation 101. >> are republicans feeling the pressure? we have stopped being at the
john boehner called it another wasted week. >> well, this isn't a progress report because there's no progress to report. >> report. >> schieffer: the president won't budge. no deals unless it includes higher taxes on upper income people. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top two percent go up. it's not me being stubborn. it's not me being partisan. >> schieffer: the president says it's math, but is it math or politics. we'll talk with former republican senator it alan simpson, and clinton white house chief of staff, erskine bowles, who chaired the first deficit reduction commission. they're concerned about the dangers ahead. so concerned that simpson took to the dance floor to urge young people to get involved. we'll also get the take of rising democratic star cory booker, the mayor of newark. what's his answer to the washington gridlock? and is he planning a run for governor against chris christie. for analysis, we'll turn to joe klein of "time" magazine. "washington post" columnist michael gerson and our own norah o'donnell and major garrett, our chief white house
and more likely that the republicans forced to give in on taxes. house speaker john boehner after a secret white house meeting this weekend says the lines of communication between both sides remain open. but what would the gop demand for a concession on taxes and how much leverage do they have left? let's bring back dr. jay john allen for politico. how are you, sir? >> doing very well. i was concerned about the wheel of misfortune there on the fiscal cliff. >> i'm worried about it, too. but let's talk about that. how much leverage do the republicans have? we know that the president has leverage because elections matter but what kind of leverage do the republicans have? >> i think the president wants to get this taken care of, not worry about a debt ceiling in the future and the republicans with their effort in that debate and some negotiating room for the republicans. they would like to see serious entitlement reforms or a movement in that direction and a system set up to try to do major tax reform. i think some of that may happen. we are seeing some democrats show some willingness to tink
's buffett's. he can do that two ways. he can get john boehner to capitulate or he can say the hell with it, let's go off the fiscal cliff and blame the republicans. >> if he had had the top two percent pay in just a little bit more of their fair share, that would fund the government for only 8. 5 daition. it's not realistic. >> no. it's rubbish, all this. that so called buffett tax, if you implement that on warren buffett and all his pals, it will pay off obama's 2011 deficit in the year 2520 circumstance, in 514 years time, and then we'll need the next half millenium to pay off his 2012 deficit. >> i think the republicans were sent there with a mandate as well as president. obviously the american people voted for the status quo. they voted for divided government. here's the question i have. i would no want them to think os and grand hides and the slem hammer we're robbing them with. if obama wants to take the country off the fiscal cliff, they need to go there. they seem afraid of that. do you see that. >> it's clear from the election that the majority of americans essentially voted for
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